around 1510. Unfortunately not everyone is able to buy all of them. Spain will be the toughest nut youll have to crack in this entire campaign and kind of the final boss of this, The Ottomans historically had issues expanding into Persia. This is typically when other great powers take their opportunity to declare war on the ottomans so they end up fighting 3 wars at once. You can also take a single Croatian province to core-conquer large parts of Dalmatia. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Save up some of the power to reverse the stability effects and war exhaustion and just keep hitting them. After you declare war on Morocco, focus on landing an army on Sicily and taking down the Spanish and Moroccan holdings in Africa. form italy (maybe with milan first cause of the sweet ideias), go quantity offensive defensive. The Ottomans are in the best position to come back from a humiliating defeat. Yeah, they aren't the scourge of Christendom for nothing. Definitely the Sultan of Rumneeds you to core Rome, Moscow, and Istanbul. They still haven't taken out mamluks. Without forts, their lands will capitulate very fast and leave them indefensible, whether vs the likes of Ramazan/Mameluks or even yourself in the next war. This war can be tricky, so it can be useful to curry favors with important allies that can distract the Spanish, like France, Russia, Britain, or even Bohemia, Scandinavia, or Naples. They just can't grow to the same extent if they don't have Constantinople. Make sure to at least take Pest for theBibliotheca Corvinanagreat project. Moscow is a tougher nut to crack focus on core conquest to make your way into Russia and take the city. ThroughHumanistideas andTradeideas, you can make your country less prone to revolt and wealthier. Not saying quantity is worse, cause quantity is AMAZING for what it does, which is usually worth it for countries with either eh or downright shitty land and therefore economies, but outclassing the Ottomans is the key to victory in this case. I wanted to do this without wasting my manpower so I can finish off England, France and Poland right after. What military ideas do they have? Naval superiority would be a good idea if you can get it against the Ottos, to try and prevent the bosphorus and dardanelles crossing. A few suggestions on improving existing mechanics: Yeah shipping troops around is not the most fun thing to do for me either. I beat them 2 times , once as Prussia ( it isn't hard to beat them as Prussia ) and as Great Britain ( I allied Russia so Ottomans had to deal with 2 flanks ).My biggest tip for you is that you dont let Ottomans blob too much .I mean if u see them eating the whole of Russia or the whole of PLC , you have to prepare to go to war with them.Get some good generals , some good moral ( something that ottomans dont have ) and some good discipline and you win . It may not display this or other websites correctly. After all, it was my first time playing this game. I always take Quality + Innovative for that insane +20% Infantry Combat Ability policy. Remember to enact the fortification edict on all provinces containing a fort, especially in your capital. I think at one point I just did nothing but go to war with them for 50 years as Germany. I was playing as Byzantium and was able to defeat the ottomans with Poland Austria and Hungary in Early game so just save scum until you can beat them. You can also shoot forParisian Pasha. All rights reserved. Press J to jump to the feed. If you need a repeatable method, dont annex Morocco after youre done. What nation are you playing as? Don't let them. Congratulations on restoring the Caliphate! By now, the Ottomans are a powerhouse that dominates the Middle East and the Eastern Mediterranean. We need at least one province deep Persian territory . Oh Hungary, you and your developed land filled with claims which just so, unfortunately, sit right next to me. Over the years, hes developed a similar passion for writing, which he mostly gains during his studies. You can trap their navies and force them out to reduce their naval strength, but thats completely optional. how do you deal with ottomans when they take quantity ideas? I took most of the Levant, snaked my way to Medina, got some more land in the Nile Delta, and cleaned up my African borders. If your army has at least 20 Janissary regiments or over 20% of the army is Janissaries, and your stability is negative, you may be facing the. However, history wont stop us! By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Getting the war goal and war score to go up, gives the chance for a good peace deal which makes them weaker and every following war with them easier. The Ottoman army is pretty bad (compared to Europeans) after mil tech 15. Your vassal may have some cores left in my case, Makuria had a core on Dongola, so use that and declare war. Try to disconnect their capital from asia. If you are fiercly religious don't make it your mission to take their clay and convert it but force their country to answer to your god. My ally kept Otto busy while I destroyed their navy, and I took forced Tunis/Crete to accept peace by taking their providence and blockading them. If you can't get to them early, you may need to wait till later in the game. their units start to not keep up with different tech groups making them weaker. I'm around the same size as the Ottomans now. Keep some stacks in Europe and the Middle-East, to combat any Spanish troops should they decide to do a naval invasion. For more information, please see our Moreover, we need a Moroccan province, Ifni. Its also important to consolidate your holdings at home. Stack up on military ideas and policies (for example quality + religious gives extra morale and siege ability) so despite my lower army size they are vastly superior in quality. Make sure to take the cities of. You can now also complete the mission. Keep a continuous Spy network on Tunis to expand faster towards the Atlantic coast. Is there a way to actually defeat the Ottomans? The whole of the Bosporus should be your main target for conquest. This EU4 Ottomans Guide is currently for patch 1.33.3 and with all DLCs installed. Youre very powerful around this time, so allies might be willing to become vassals. In my case, Hungary got into a war with Austria, which saw both their units occupied. You don't need any military idea groups or military national ideas to wipe out the Ottomans. The Ottomans are at such a crossroads of trade routes that good trade can make them very very wealthy. It shouldn't be hard man .. In that war, I took Constantinople and Edirne to stop them from crossing the strait without going around. Conquer the World as the Ottomans etc. Also always have a military advisor, either a 5% discipline one or a +10% morale one. It's expensive, and it hurts, but you can absolutely kill them that way. Venice still owns Crete, and Genoa still has a bunch of islands in the Meditteranean, as well as outposts in Crimea. Just take as much provinces as you can. . I've already taken aristocratic, espionage, humanist, quality, and expansion ideas. 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Who're they allied to? Moscow is a tougher nut to crack focus on core conquest to make your way into Russia and take the city. I strongly recommend keeping Oman around as a vassal for the time being theres a good chance theyll be the last nation to host the Hanbali school of thought. . Didn't require too much manpower to take them out. Get them to a high war exhaustion and then white peace them. Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations Release Trailer, In case this is where you enter the series, first of all welcome! This has a simple reason: Spain. They dont grant permanent claims, so only do them when youre ready to attack Hungary once more. Their military modifiers will be much weaker in the late game usually. This war can be tricky, so it can be useful to curry favors with important allies that can distract the Spanish, like France, Russia, Britain, or even Bohemia, Scandinavia, or Naples. Take the tribal kingdom to the south as your vassal. Its useful for you to grab important Caucasus provinces early. Integrate the vassal after theyve cored all of Sudan for you since hanging on to Ethiopia will be trouble for them. Currently Spain. Even if the Spanish took Ifni, you can take all the provinces in a single war. I used to wait until late game to roflstomp them with my Vodka-fueled endless spacemarines but this is no longer an option, since on very hard they blob endlessly and since we share a border in Crimea, war will come. Take as much land as you're willing to take. I cant forget to mention the use of trade companies at this point. With my aggressive expansion pretty high in Europe, its time we shift away. Thats right Europe seemed to have forgotten what weve been doing to the other states, so its time for a friendly reminder. You can run up their war exhaustion very easily. Basically, you get some strong allies for yourself. This will deplete their manpower to zero, cause them to take out loans they can't repay and raise their WE to 20 very quickly. When you fight with the Mamluks, make sure to expand into Saudi Arabia, towards Medina and Yemen. So, currently I'm playing as Lithuania (first game and vanilla, sigh) in 1609 and I've expanded quite a bit, mainly annexing the Livonian Order, Great Horde and Crimea, as well as pushing Russia back a bit. They are superior early on. From 1500 onwards, its time to fight anything, anywhere, all the time. While you prepare for a war with Tunis, consolidate your holdings. I personally wouldn't ally (all) big nations around the Ottoman. With these claims, youll get a great opportunity to expand your holdings when the, fires. Particularly as Poland/Commonwealth, which has a nice set of military national ideas. However, by the logic that the enemy of my enemy is my friend, I reached out to a powerful historical ally of the Ottomans France makes a perfect ally in this scenario. This war can be tricky since Hungary could have a high discipline. By writing about games, he can bring two of his great passions together. So, feel free to jump around in this guide to have it suit your campaign. You deal with their numbers by stackwiping their troops with quality and composition. If you manage to get to around 60% war score, then you could demand a province with a fort that you haven't occupied. Its also important to consolidate your holdings at home. The only way to stop the Ottomans is to overwhelm them on multiple fronts, since their armies are pretty much always superior to any other nations, even when massively outnumbered. to grant you a bunch more permanent claims all around. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Best time to hit them is in the first 50 years of the game, and the last 100 years of the game. I'm just trying out Muscovy once more after not having played for while and lo and behold the Ottoblobs get Crimea for free. AE won't matter (No one will really care if you gut the ottos except maybe hejaz?). Play your cards right, and you'll be on your way to restoring the Caliphate. with Castille/Aragon/England or smth. If you do that, the AI will continue building troops and go further into debt than today's Greece. At this point, the war is won. The better player you are, the more attention you pay to all of this aspects. Depending on how large the Mamluks are, you can finish them off before 1600. If youre allied to Naples, call them in only now. Build up your naval forces if you are uncertain of your navys ability, takeNaval Ideasto give yourself an edge. Play your cards right, and you'll be on your way to restoring the Caliphate. Take all the provinces you need for the Caliphate to finally realize the unification of Islam. It's not so much worth breaking truce any more with AE, revolt risk and manpower recovery in the early game being what it is. They don't get an infantry upgrade at 15 like western nations do. I played a Russia campaign a couple of weeks back, and attacked the Ottomans a lot late mid-game to late game, and I used my ally Spain to crush their armies (they easily won battles against the Ottos while being outnumbered 2:1). Retake all of Transylvanias cores, including Maramaros, and take the provinces in the state of Alfld. Istanbul isnt the problem (obviously), and Rome should be easy takings with your dominance in the Mediterranean. Spain will be the toughest nut youll have to crack in this entire campaign and kind of the final boss of this EU4 Ottomans guide. When dealing with a large nation, core conquest is a very viable tactic. Make sure you are stable both in terms of unrest and economy and move your armies to Morocco. Numbers don't mean a whole lot when you can't fight quality+co and offensive for a +15% discipline is good (discipline boost tactics too, so its very good). And actually, 173k is quite a lot for AI Ottomans in 1609, I think. quick and dirty: hudavendigar, constantinople, kocaeli (? They started taking ex-moldavia area and are now beating up Venice, I get what you mean, their base from the provinces is 107 while mine is just 38 :(. Play Burgundy for example and it's all going to be right there in one region. Next, focus on supporting rebels and destabilizing them. Its useful for you to take this before a rising threat, Russia, can show itself. Just getting all of the arriving divisions to the front by rail is enough, not to mention everything else. I easily beat them, even stack wiping them sometimes. If you focus on taking down the Ottomans you can't be giving them respite. If Warscore is left make them pay war reperations (remember that you also get 10% from every loan they take, so rebuilding is a bit harder for them) and release countries. Make the war goal something I can take and defend easily; the goal is not to defeat them utterly as they have ridiculous numbers to be able to siege them out completely at first. After you dealt with Genoa, you can complete the mission Conquer Caffa for a temporary trade power boost in the Black Sea. Although they may be weak, theyre sitting on at least one province we need to restore the Caliphate Cordoba- and they may have taken Sicily, where we need two provinces: Palermo and Messina. You can also take a single Croatian province to core-conquer large parts of Dalmatia. Everybody will then gang up on them afterwards, leading to a downward spiral. The rest of Europe was functionally cowed because after the first war I could just keep fighting them over and over and over again without them putting up a huge response. Works better if you have a fleet to block the straight, e.g. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. great project. As others have mentioned, you can beat quantity with quality. Ottoman Empire became modern day Turkey lol. I'm currently playing a commonwealth run and even dominating muscovy (they still exist but not really) and colonizing siberia, they have double the army/manpower size i do. You are using an out of date browser. Let's play Europa Universalis IV (EU4) as the Ottomans! Make your way towards the Holy Roman Empire to go there where the real-life Ottomans couldnt: Vienna. Since you cant annex vassals during the war, use your moments of peace to start the process. Then you declare war on Byzantium a few years after 1444 and pray the Ottomans do so too after you. From there, you can also go back to the southern tip of Arabia and take out the states in Yemen there before youve dealt with the Mamluks in Arabia. Prevent their room for expansion, cut them off so rebels can take hold or other nations can try to expand, and declare war whenever the truce timer is up. You can attack the Spanish head-on, but this might bring in some difficult allies. Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America). Normally it's about 100-120k? Once you declared war on Tunis, expand Fezzan in the desert itself and take the powerful coastal provinces for yourself. Who would win? I was sowing discontent Ottoman Empire right from the get go, but at this point I started funneling my extremely large treasury into supporting the Ottoman rebellion. I knew espionage as last idea group and I figured it wasn't worth it, but wanted to try it anyway for fun. If you are humanist support rebels in suppressive countries, if you are an absolute monarchy destroy the revolution. The more of it is under your control, the less will be under the control of the Spanish. Here are some of the issues I encountered, as well as how you can act on them, should the situation arise. By giving them Mosul, I was able to vassalize them. Meanwhile, declare war on the Mamluks to take Palestine, Transjordan, and start expanding into Arabia. After the war ends they will quickly self- destruct through rebellions and other nations invading. Ally (a couple) big nation(s) to make them not want to attack me to give me time to prepare. Make sure you get enough ships. This will often make them take the long way around the Black Sea in wars, slowing them down considerably. How to beat Ottomans as Poland It is 1505, I annexed Danzig, Mazovia, Lithuania as a junior partner, and Austrians as my allies. Congratulations! Sadly its very hard because not only do they have quantity, i believe its +33% land force from ideas. The entire army of Tunis or 10k expensive boys? . I also guaranteed the Moroccans, to prevent Spain from consolidating its foothold in the Meditteranean. This will also split up their empire in two, which will weaken them considerably. Privacy Policy. is a province you will need to retake the Caliphate. Hungary, Austria, Poland) for free. If he goes for other nations, it's just easier for you to carpet siege all the forts you want. From your base in Morocco and Spain, it shouldnt be hard for you to break your alliance with France and declare war on them. The Serbians, Bulgarians and Greeks can easily be swayed to revolt if you let the Ottomans drown in war exhaustion, keep them occupied, wait for the rebels to rise up, then sign a peace and let them deal with the problem. All my games are achievement runs. . Most states are weak, meaning you can diplomatically conquer most of them.. Once youve taken the east coast of Arabia, you can complete the mission toConquer Al-Ahsa. They're frankly not nearly as difficult to beat as commentary on this sub would have you believe. For your finances throughout this run, trade is instrumental. Europa Universalis 4 (EU4) Guide: Ottomans Made Easy - Late Game We're in the home stretch! EUIV: AAR's, Let's Plays, and Fan Fiction, EU IV: Alternate History Short Story Contest Contr. I'd suggest playing more aggressive in your conquests, or try to botch them early on because that always works best. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. You can now complete the missionsControl the DanubeandConquer Transsylvania, but dont complete them just yet. Once youve successfully taken Samarkand, the one area you still need for the Caliphate is. Ifni is a very poor province, so it doesnt cost much to take. The Great Horde is a great nation to do this with. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Perhaps it's worth breaking truce with them as well. I was just bribed to stop being corrupt. Note: Be smart about who you declare war on. You can take small coastal ports when you peace out their allies to gain an early foothold. You wouldn't have much issue at all. Call if Uzbek if you need the help. We also established footholds in Persia, Egypt, Libya, and the Caucasus, which we can use to expand further. Otto was huge though and Lithuania was getting routed, but I knew that was going to happen. You need to provide at least cursory information about your situation if you want help. The Great Horde is a great nation to do this with. After that you can trucebreak and catch their troops between you and and the rebels. Well I just got out of a disasterous war with the Ottomans. By now, the Ottomans are a powerhouse that dominates the Middle East and the Eastern Mediterranean. The QQ exploded in my case and gave birth to an independent Kurdish state, Soran. Proceed to stomp the Ottomans, and get them to return all Byzantine cores. The Caucasus mountains provide a valuable defense. I had a mighty Spain to deal with that expanded deep into North Africa and threatened my expansion plan. Meanwhile, declare war on the Mamluks to take Palestine, Transjordan, and start expanding into Arabia. (Commonwealth). A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game Europa Universalis IV by Paradox Development Studio. Once youve successfully taken Samarkand, the one area you still need for the Caliphate is Thatta, in India. Get 100% warscore and make the release Byzantium or take Constantinople and Edrine to cut them in half (you can core these two provinces). All rights reserved. Now what you wanna do in your position is to only defend in rough terrain, such as hills, highlands, and mountains(Southern Hungary and Greece are good for this, along with the Caucuses), and to increase your army quality with idea groups, advisors, and religion (Protestant for 2.5% discipline and 5% morale if you have the common sense dlc, and Orthodox for 5% discipline and 33% manpower if you have Third Rome dlc. In the previous part, we covered the remainder of the Age of Discovery and built the Ottomans from a major power to a powerhouse. Best advice for beating ottomans is simply stop being intimidated by their numbers and fight them. If you're a relatively powerful nation like PLC, Hungary, Austria, castille, etc, you can just straight up declare war and beat them before they get big. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. If you gather your army in many small stacks consisting of 30k each and slowly but steadily march your way to Constantinople, Ottos will likely do the same. Istanbul isnt the problem (obviously), and Rome should be easy takings with your dominance in the Mediterranean. Honestly, when I want to kill them, I just don't stop declaring war. This is part 3 of the Ottomans made easy EU4 guide. In this area, you may want to expand recklessly to the point that it nearly breaks your nation. Those penalties are insignificant compared to being able to remove them quickly. Don't get confused by map size. Even with my main allies France and Venice (60kish each) we're still not as powerful as them combined. Who are their rivals? Beats conquering, right? Once they do, you attack. EUIV: AAR's, Let's Plays, and Fan Fiction, EU IV: Alternate History Short Story Contest Contr. Also I'm a scrub. Youll also get an achievement to show off how great youve become at. Your situation might differ from mine, but I had to deal with a massive Timurids that united all of Persia. Helping out AI friends and building up long term rivalries and friendships can break the monotony. It may not display this or other websites correctly. This area is very wealthy and contains the Islamic Holy cities of Mekka and Medina. Then, take 100% worth of war score demands on top of those rebel enforcements, including annulling their treaties. Cordoba is a landlocked province, so its tricky to fabricate a claim. 43.9K subscribers Let's play Europa Universalis IV (EU4) as the Ottomans! Especially if you got France on your side, the Spanish got a bigger fish to fry, so the heartland lies right open. If you annex them, you can no longer get the -10% Aggressive Expansion bonus. . I control most of Northern Africa and Central Europe. The Spanish AI is fond of expanding into North Africa and might be blocking your way towards these important areas. 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In my case, Hungary got into a war with Austria, which saw both their units occupied. Revanchism might have something to do with that https://eu4.paradoxwikis.com/Warfare#Revanchism. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. start again as france and take beter ideas and no CB byzantium early. If they engage you in a bad position, forfeit the battle to prevent a stack wipe. Optimally you want them to release bulgaria. They have claims on the provinces, which means that if they get the siege, you wont be able to take it in the peace deal. Look around Ottoman. A country Im supposed to take over is allied with a bigger and stronger country. Slowly head towards Samarkand by expanding Ajam. Avoid tough wars by using Spains diplomatic commitments! Later on, the Ottomans don't have janissaries and your units should be just as good as theirs. The Ottomans tend to be hard to beat around the mid game, when they build up their Jannisaries (sp?) Play smart, have forts in mountains/hills/swamps. . Give the UlemaUlema Land Rights, the Merchant GuildsMerchand Guild Land Rights, and the DhimmiDhimmi Land Rights. and since my goals are quite small and achievable I usually. Late game their units really fall off and while they are numerous, they're squishy. They guarantee the independence of Medina and Cyprus while Hejaz and Fadl are their vassals. The intent is for you to play along and improve your skills and understanding of the game, and have fun all the while! It's kind of irrelevant though, because even though I have almost two times the total development of the Ottomans, they still have a much larger army and stronger allies. Valve Corporation. I still had Ajam as a vassal, which gets cores on much of Iran. This is not specific to this run. 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