Its big. In part, this is because the initial resource costs of GBs go up significantly by nearly a factor of 3 for each age. The Statue (and Cathedral etc.) You can put points into your Great Buildings as much and as often as you like. Thats about the value of one Late Middle Ages good per day, or about one expansion space every 4 weeks. Total GB shouldnt be more than these 11. Update: Note that the original analysis was made before the 0.26 update announcement on Feb 5, 2013, and some comments have been modified or updated since then. Its worthwhile for this alone. Build it ASAP. Leave alone for now. The Castel provides both, and only occupying 25 spaces. A close second for worthless is Nortre Dame. Colosseum and Cathedral of Aachen). Web You have just received a large amount of forge points and want to level up another great building as quickly as possible in Forge of Empires the online strategy game. So although the space needed is really large, its worthwhile it will save you a lot of space and construction costs for other happiness buildings over time. You must log in or register to reply here. Forge Points I deleted mine at 30, after realizing what it will continue to offer. The author fails to understand the basic structure of the game. Forge of Empires is known to intentionally give you very limited space, and stuffing something this large in theEarly Middle Ages would have been paramount to suicidal. Provides a boost for production of Special Goods in Arctic Future and beyond. Youre going to fight. The next level to stop at is on the wiki but 58 is good. For the purposes of the latter issue, I made a table where I estimated the output value of GBs in the Early, High and Late Middle Ages, with an assumed standard set of houses and supply production buildings. Tell me what GB can touch that. I have to agree with Dskies about the Colosseum, I find it worthless for the space it wastes. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. FLAT COINS? It might look weak, but is by far the cheapest % military boost per FP. Can you provide the link? Relics appear as standardised icons in various places around the GE map. Thats not all. Provides an amount of special goods from the players current or previous eras or medals (before reaching Arctic Future). WILL DEFINITELY TAKE MONTHS TO FINISH. etc. Details of the bonuses of each Great Building can be found in the topic of each building. Zeus-63. Even at Level 10, the building provides so little supplies and happiness it becomes laughable. This can make up for the rapidly escalating cost of more levels. Thank you Agent327, that is exactly what I needed. Your detailed list of GB and its rating are the most accurate here. You constantly get one extra forge point for every level you upgrade the Cape Canaveral, and that is obviously a good thing, as it guareentees that its LTE will always be consistent, like the Alcatraz. Obviously, Alactraz is a must, as well if youre a fighter. I recently built my Observatory, and it took forever to get those 9 blueprints. A bit too much time and effort needed to make it useful IMHO. The Castle del Monte is the greatest Great Building in the whole of Forge of Empires, and it is even better than the Alcatraz. Several GBs were rebalanced or nerfed in happiness, medals and goods production. and Delete the Virgo. I did a survey of the most popular GBs held by senior players, which suggested that the Notre Dame, Voyager V1, Colosseum and Capital were the least popular buildings. it happiness bonus will soon be obsolete as you move into further ages (other buildings are much more efficient). (By the way, the Cathedral is a very helpful addition to your city if you have a Tower of Babel.). At the other end, Alcatraz won hands down, with CdM a distant second. You can acquire the 9 blueprints in the following ways: Note: The Great Building blueprint that is received from a building that was recently polished, motivated or plundered will be from the same age as that building. The order is not critical, because it will be sorted automatically. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Apr 12, 2022 #3 It is more an issue of when to level up the wanted great Buildings to some level rather how high. If you, like most players, don't care about city defence, then you get the same bonus from two levels on the other three buildings. This would be good to have. So even maxed, the Colosseum is woefully a waste of space. Oh myI thought the Space Needle had low ownership rates, but the Lotus Temple is even worse. Wondering if anyone has a list of targeted levels of each great building?? You may now donate Forge Points, and also view which reward you will receive (if any) for your current donations. Babel well yes and no. As the levels go up, more points are required and the delay grows. This author has missed the point a little. Otherwise, go for other GBs first. Is there a list of what BP can drop from motivating each type of building within the game? Provides a supply boost before Arctic Future. NEVER. I assume I will need to be on the buying end of that for the TE goods necessary to construct the dyna tower after I get the blueprints since it would take forever to trade up to TE goods from CA goods for them. DONT, repeat, DONT make this mistake. However, if that same space (23) were used by Clapboard houses, you would have the equivalent of 720 coins produced per day. The Critical hit bonus is also great. My strategy is to get teh dyna tower before i am out of the LMA. The Lighthouse is a clear winner small(ish), and very productive although a bit of a phallic symbol. In Patch 1.29 (7 July 2014), the maximum level of Great Buildings has been removed. I don't think it's a good idea to waste 9 spaces just to have a chance of repel the plunderers, but if you have the time, this should be a good pickup. Your email address will not be published. single. There are two flaws in this analysis. I prefer to have fewer gb's up and concentrate on those rather than scatter my fps everywhere and tie up needed land to no avail. The Zeus, C of A, CDM, Basils, and Deal are all necessary, just to protect yourself and fight when needed. Provides the players guild with a support boost for Guild vs. Guild (GvG). so in four days I produce enough goods to build an alcatraz and Im only in the LMA. Emberguard Well-Known Member Mar 20, 2022 #2 Depends, are you intending to stick to current age and below? It may not display this or other websites correctly. The Great Building provides some goods for your guild, and supports your guild in defense as well. Bottom line: strongly recommended, and 50% better than the Colosseum, if you have a choice. Where St Marks shines is in the coin boost ability. Allows the possibility of finding a Mysterious Shard once every 4 hours in the Cultural Settlements. The above poster recommends Zeus, Aachen, CdM and Terracotta Army all at level 61. Build as soon as you can and keep levelling it. Quite simply, the Hagia Sophia allows you to get more GBs (and allows you to get them levelled up faster too). Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. I can't believe that one-fourth of my server actually built this. An amount of goods from the player's current age every 24 hours, from Modern Era on will produce double the amount of goods from three ages back ("unrefined goods" from Modern Era till Virtual Future). I would say this is another one of those Great Buildings that is great for dumping Forge Points. Note that this is purely subjective to your needs and desire to invest in your own GBs. Dont rely as I did on building separate Goods, Supply, Residential, Cultural & Decorations when, with some effort, GBs will supply those necessary needs faster. The Hagia Sophia is also large (76=42 squares), providing happiness and forge points. Building the Deal Castle though, requires Colonial Age goods that would require 800,000 each in supplies and coins to produce. Research-wise, you simply end up being held up by unlock costs of technologies. Likewise, the space needed is also a big factor. Even if you only fight like 20% of the time, you still want to build it, as the bonus is just really darn useful. It is more an issue of when to level up the wanted great Buildings to some level rather how high. At 6400 Happiness, a maxed Hagia Sophia makes the Colosseum look puny. Much depends on what you like to do. An amount of Forge Points every 24 hours. All three have a cut off point there. Haghia sophia . The Castel is moderately sized (55=25 squares), providing an attack boost, and forge points. JavaScript is disabled. Thats the equivalent of 12.3 Churches, or 4.3 (LMA premium) Palaces, but in much less space of course. As we all know, the worst bonuses for a Great Building is flat coins, supplies or even happiness. Dont kill yourself to try get this one early (before the colonial era), but its ok if you can afford it. (Similar. And it helps everyone. Most other GBs have a "golden level" between level 60 and 70. Overall, this IS a very, and I do mean, VERY good Great Building, and I'll be amazed if you don't have it by The Future at the very latest. However, I often see level Traz to 70 or Zeus/CDM to 61 . HAGIA SOFIA Very Good Its too big. (You will want to get the Cathedral up to at least level 6 though, before it will be paying more than the land cost). The going price for alcatraz goods is around 500 FPs. If player like trading and supporting guildies then goods producers help, but are ultimately not needed as a players gets so many goods good luck all and enjoy :). Cant understand why people max out GBs giving FPs, as they invest thousands of FPs in these GBs to get 5-8 FPs back. Just flat coins. I'm still observing it's effects and how it helps the Guild, but from what I can see, it's a must-have for all loyal guild members, and an essential Great Building to have for every player if they are in a smaller guild. Is there a list anywhere that shows optimal level to take GBs to? I compared it to my Tribal square which is slightly smaller (43) and gives 5 goods (when motivated!) Press J to jump to the feed. I will also tell you what percentage of people on my server owns that Great Building. If anyone knows a formula I don't, I will add it here and credit your input. Castel del Monte: Level 10 until post-arc then 55+. Unlike conventional buildings which require only coins / supplies, Great Buildings have requirements of goods and a full set of blueprints which must be collected before the Great Building can be constructed. While I do recommend building this Great Building, as the 30% attack bonus is just too hard to ignore, I wouldn't put this as my top priority to build if I start another new city on a new server. I have just reached the industrial age and my view on GBs is now very different to when I was earlier in the game. I built the Lighthouse of Alexandria shortly after I built the Statue of Zeus (i.e. I hope InnoGames can make the Colosseum give out units instead of medals, or just give them an attack bonus, because until then, literally, and I repeat it: LITERALLY. You must log in or register to reply here. Better have shrines of knowledge. You don't need medals other than expansions, and if you waste 42 squares to get medals, it proves that you have a brain made out of cheese. CAPE CANAVERAL Very good/vital 1 FP for every level it goes up. And THIS, is why happiness, coins and supplies-providing Great Buildings suck - the inflation of how many coins and supplies needed will eventually make them look like it's meant to be served as a part of a Happy Meal in McDonalds. Most GBs will never see level 10, probably not 5. Beyond that Arc is second best. This is what you call a GREAT Building. You upgrade the Zeus to Level 10, and it gives you 30% attack bonus. day. This cost can be avoided, if you have a maxed Colosseum). Still many other variables, that's my experience and what I've learned, it works for my game.. Good donation etiquette mandates that the last few forge points must be left for the owner to put. Most happiness-related Great Buildings are pretty bad, and they are mostly treated as icing on cake like the case with Alcatraz. B Tier are GBs that you can build depending on your opinion, and there are no issues if you build them or not. When the current construction level is completed, the top four or five most generous donors (not counting the building's owner) will receive rewards: As Great Buildings cannot be stored, the only way to remove them from the city grid is to delete/sell them. Assuming only 20 town houses (probably in LMA or later), a maxed St Marks will be boosting your income by 34,000 coins per day (and more in the Colonial era, or if you upgrade to better houses). Oh yeah, Space Age Asteroid Belt and Space Age Venus' GB's won't be featured, as they are too early to judge as of now. For the first number of times you are plundered, there is a certain chance the plunder attempt will be repelled and the attacker will gain nothing. For comparsion, if you save the 2500 Forge Points required to upgrade the Oracle to Level 10, you can rush the Tech Tree all the way until the later parts of the Late Middle Ages, or through both colonial and Industrial Age. The daily Goods output of the Lighthouse is similar to, but slightly better than that of the Tower, or about 6080 (coins +supplies) equivalent every day (in LMA). Cyril: You asked for a linka link to what exactly. Its massive in fact. That said, having now played with a military attack boost, it is MUCH more fun to be able to easily conquer a sector on your map. They represent great achievements in humanity's history and future and provide very powerful bonuses for your city! The Tower gives 6 goods at level one and upgrades itself as you move through the ages! Trading in 2 duplicate copies of blueprints you already possess. So as you all know, there are over 40 Great Buildings in Forge of Empires. Saint Basil's Cathedral (10.2%, 51.1%), 16. Coins There's no real optimal level. You will make a huge investment in FPs in your GBs so making a mistake early on will be costly. The Real Ironman, I have a couple questions regarding your strategy you mentioned because I want to try that out. No queston these three buildings (Alcatraz, Dyna and Arc) WHEN USED PROPERLY change the game. Buh bye coliseum at least I wont make future coliseums. SPACE NEEDLE Useless Not enough happiness and you absolutely dont need gold at this stage of the game. It is an amazingly pretty castle though. Too big for the happiness that provides. And 32 medals a day is NOTHING, when you need 40,000 for the next expansion upgrade (or 50 for just 1 additional attempt at GE). Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. That happens at levels 5, 16, 28, 41, 58, and 91. Its not the worst GB, but its close! The gold is worthless, the attack % is vital if you fight. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Cathedral + 4 Gambrel houses + happiness bldgs => around 65 squares, provides 19120 coins/day at level 10. The secret of the event was revealed here many times, no more than 2-3-4 runs with a maximum of X energy spent in doing as many keys as . Its difficult to figure out exactly how much though, and whether the difference is fair or not. I can literally build any GB i want. Dont bother. World: International - Cirgard Server (~32,000 players, ~6,800 active) (Active Adjusted (AA) are All GBs ownership divided by 6800 (the amount of active players because you can't really compare the ownership of the Babel with the Arc when the two is 10+ ages apart), Guild: Knights of Serenity (Currently hovering in the top 1% on the server), GB's Built:Statue of Zeus (Level 10),Lighthouse of Alexandria (Level 10),Cathedral of Aachen (Level 11), CF depends if you like Quests.. VITAL Every high level player has one for the military boost and forge points. The supplies boost is very good (more than 27,000 supplies per day, when you have some farms), and actually exceeds the benefits of the Goods side. You don't get 11 goods from a completion until level 8. Chance to double the resources plundered after successfully defeating a neighbors defense. That is, it gives you people, without any corresponding income. Great Buildings are special buildings inspired by world history which can be built to provide powerful benefits to the player. Plunder Goods If you have the Chateau at Level 1, you get 60 diamonds for the quest; If you have it at Level 10, you get 100 diamonds, which is quite a lot. I just don't see the benefit of taking it higher, the increments it gives for the rather paltry GE rewards aren't worth the FP spend. I literally deleted my Oracle after I got back into playing the game, as it is now just wasting 9 spaces for baby-sized happiness and raw supplies. - A 2x3 building which gives you 8FPS in such small space!!!!! I saw a lvl 82 CC the other day giving its lucky owner 82 Fps every day. (This works out to about 4800 coins and supplies daily in Late Middle Ages, so handily beats the Clapboard-house equivalency test used re the Statue). 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