Kaidou does not think highly of Whitebeard, stating that he was too soft despite being powerful. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Straw Hat Pirates with an ambitious goal of becoming the King of the Pirates and has already fought with and managed to survive even a few attacks from Kaido. [14], Any crewmember from Whitebeard's crew who killed another crewmember were to be hunted down by the commander of that former crew member's division. According to Luffy and Rayleigh, Haki attacks should let someone punch even Logia users but it doesn't seem to be the case here. However, even after taking so much damage in his already weakened state, he died standing, an impressive feat when compared to other characters. In his prime, Whitebeard was a rival to Gol D. Roger, and following Roger's death, was widely recognized as the strongest man in the world, a fact complimented by having the highest active bounty whilst alive, and the second highest bounty of any pirate in history. [35] Whitebeard was understanding and forgiving of his subordinates, going to great lengths to rescue any who were in great danger, no matter the cost. [28] However, he was much more thoughtful than he initially appeared to be. [64], Initially, Izou had a hostile relationship with Whitebeard, which stemmed from the painful and humiliating treatment Izou's master, Oden, was receiving as part of the challenge Whitebeard had given the daimyo in order to join his crew. This also marks the first time that Whitebeard called him by his name, Straw Hat Luffy, instead of "brat", proving that Whitebeard came to acknowledge him and his strength through the course of the war. Yes, I've seen threads where people say that Akainu can take Marco and Jozu mid diff, and Marco, Jozu and Vista with high diff. At least have Akainu incapacitated temporarily with a concussion or better yet, walk with a limp, gait, or cane to show visible immobility from his tussles with Whitebeard. WB in a hard fight 31%. If he hadn't had incurred anything, then it would have been a low diff but obv that wasn't the case. In short, I totally understand from a storyline perspective how Akainu remains as the ultimate antagonist from the World Government/Marines, but Oda's rendition of Akainu during Marineford severely undercuts plot consistency with Oda's description of Whitebeard as the strongest Yonko. its not even comparable. People don't acknowledge this because bias and lack of information. [2], Several action figures of Edward Newgate have been produced. [36] In addition, Whitebeard took full responsibility for the actions of his crew and kept a stern outward appearance for non-crew members, falsely claiming to outsiders that he ordered Ace to hunt down Blackbeard. because Whitebeard wouldn't have to deal with it in the long term. whitebeard getting impaled doesn't matter. [57], As a testament to Whitebeard and Marco's closeness, the latter was aware of the former's childhood circumstances as an orphan of Sphinx, which led to Whitebeard's career of piracy. [84] Most of them seemed to be within the brink of pirate raids, and it was only by being "owned" under his name that they were kept stable and safe, thereby earning the Emperor the gratitude of the citizens; consequentially, these territories immediately became vulnerable after his death. This was seen in his encounters with Shanks,[47] Gol D. Roger,[48] and Shiki; still, this did not guarantee complete cooperation from him, judging from the nature of these conversations.[15][49]. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Whitebeard kills Akainu->Aokiji becomes Fleet Admiral assuming Sengoku still steps down->Marines do not militarize as much->Marines are weaker than they are now (possibly no military draft, leading to Gion-Tokikake-Kizaru as 3 admirals)->One of them gets sent to Dressrosa (unlikely that any Warlord renouncing their title wouldn't get someone sent yea.even a worn down Akainu is still a natural endurance & stamina monster. [73] He later attempted to redeem himself at the cost of his own life by charging head-first into battle, but Whitebeard himself stopped and reprimanded him.[74]. Whitebeard's favorite foods are alcoholic beverages and cheap food. He had a long face, ploughed because of the advanced age with many wrinkles around his eyes, and many scars running along his chest, and was very muscular. From the East Blue to the New World, anything related to the world of One Piece belongs here! A pirate with a similar crescent-shaped mustache, Oda explained in an extra pamphlet (that came with initial copies of. Of course, this prompted a mass attack on Akainu, despite the. Their friendship stemmed from when they first drank together, and Whitebeard protected Fish-Man Island from slavery due to this friendship. Akainu no-diffed Ace and made sure Whitebeard does not get out of Marinefod alive, even though whitebeard won the short term fight, akainu did the most damage in the long term, he was the one who gave the death blow to whitebeard with the inugami guren ability, even if blackbeard never came whitebeard would still have passed away from that later, while akainu himself regenerated back due to his logia devil fruit, so we could say that akainu mid-diffed whitebeard, since akainu himself did not went all out either and he was ambushed as well, if this was fleet admiral akainu he would solo any yonko, he has become unstoppable after the 3D2Y arc, Low diff no. He goes on to state that both Luffy and Ace deserve to be executed due to their affiliations and attacks Luffy, but Ace throws himself in the way. You must log in or register to reply here. If you've just set sail with the Straw Hat Pirates, be wary of spoilers on this subreddit! Kaidou didn't have his body holed by Luffy so much that he would die even if he didn't fight anyone. At 72 years old, he was the oldest known Four Emperors member in the series. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. It's the classic manga trope: Age is catching up to the super strong old man. Whitebeard with brown hair in his anime debut. He also wore shorts and a white bandanna. being a generic term for facial hair that applies to both mustaches and beards; however, since few (if any) serious alternatives have been offered, both fans and professional translations continue to use Whitebeard, as does the quasi-canon One Piece Yellow databook. Actions that initially seemed to be the result of thoughtless, headstrong bravado actually had strong reasons behind them; his loud declaration that Fish-Man Island belonged to him freed the island from all pirates and slavery,[29] and his insistence that Blackbeard be punished was merely a cover for Ace, who had set out after him against Whitebeard's wishes. I doubt Akainu would go to WB place for the title? This was his first appearance in the story and clearly he was very important to the future of One Piece, so Oda refused to give him any lasting injuries. Whitebeard considered every single member of his crew, as well as his subordinate crews, his "sons". If you still want to wreak havoc on this sea, bear my name on your back and go wild as much as you like! Blackbeard manages to land punches on Whitebeard's torso and chin. Akainu and Kuzan fought for 10 days! The same guy who was beating ace in his sleep was stabbed by a sneak attack from squardo he sais it himself i cant be the strongest forever. He used cheap tricks too, fooling Squardo with his bullshit to stab an already sick, dying WB. He used the Rocks Pirates as a reason for dismissing Oden joining the Whitebeard Pirates, citing the daimyo's wild, rebellious nature as being difficult to control and equating it to the other members of Rocks. Remember when Crocodile fought mihawk and came out unscathed? ), as Newgate does not possess an actual beard. It's same as Kaido knocking out Luffy on rooftop but not killing him.. Luffy woke up later as well with bleedings and such but without any serious injury. Whitebeard is another of the Yonko, with extremely powerful abilities and a large fleet of followers. and our In the anime, there were no swords at all in his body. [32] Like Gol D. Roger, Whitebeard believed that a child should not be responsible for their parents' sins. When he was 52, he wore a white and yellow pirate hat with his jolly roger on it over a black bandana with black and red, both worn over long, blond flowing hair he had back then. [54], Out of everybody within his crew, Marco was perhaps the closest person Whitebeard had to a right-hand man. However, before even reading the letter, Whitebeard threw it away, claiming that Shanks should come in person with some expensive sake if he wanted to talk. If people still want to use Oda's statement that Akainu is PK level, despite his resources and shits, they should also consider WB is the closest to the title by Roger's former crew Buggy. Like here. /s. [79] After showing his fierce tenacity, Luffy had managed to gain Whitebeard's respect. Whitebeard ate the Gura Gura no Mi, a Paramecia-type Devil Fruit that allowed him to cause quakes and generate powerful shockwaves. [38] For this reason, Whitebeard was fully against letting someone like Kozuki Oden join his crew, since the Samurai was rebellious by nature. [58] Initially, Ace refused this offer and attempted to kill Whitebeard nearly a hundred times, only to fail at each one. [102], Under normal circumstances, they did not provoke each other. Shanks lost a whole arm to a Sea King. Oda had to nerf whitebeard otherwise the outcome would be different. Press J to jump to the feed. Garp, before the events of Marineford, said that they had "angered the king of the sea". Admirals and yonko are on the same tier, Akainu alone could give Whitebeard an Hard-Extremely diff fight this means Garp and Sengoku could do the same and so could Aokiji. [116], As a true testament to his strength and reputation, the World Government was prepared to use practically the entire Marine force and the Seven Warlords of the Sea to fight Newgate and his crew, with Sengoku even remarking that their victory was not guaranteed due to Whitebeard's overwhelming power. [132], Besides his formidable power, Whitebeard was a brilliant leader and an incredibly skilled military strategist: a match for former Fleet Admiral Sengoku, one renowned as "The Resourceful General" for his famed acumen on the field of battle. Because of his role as a protector of Fish-Man Island, Whitebeard was considered a hero by many Fish-Men,[29] in particular Jinbe of the Seven Warlords of the Sea. . His pants were also left hanging over his boots in his first appearance in the anime and during one of the scenes of his meeting with Shanks; in the manga, his pants were always tucked inside his boots. Still, he acknowledges that the once strongest man in the world had died in glory. It was first shown 30 years prior after both he and the Whitebeard Pirates shipwrecked in Wano, as he could sense Oden coming from a vast distance towards them, and his overall strength. [26] In initial appearances, he seemed unable to see any cause for alarm on any decision he made and refused all advice given to him, such as his nurse telling him not to drink heavily[27] or Shanks warning him of Blackbeard. until akainu pays for what he did to Ace. A full view of Newgate when he was a young pirate. There were only like two pirates there that could effectively hurt Akainu to begin with. He is represented as a polar bear in the action figure series S.H.Figuarts ZERO 2013.[165]. Whitebeard was legitimately incapacitated at a terrible time. The Dude had heartattacks during a war. It's cute how people think that what they think should happen trumps what actually did happen. Crocodile was one of the many Impel Down convicts who sought revenge against Whitebeard. Whitebeard was one of the very few people in the world who could use all three types of Haki. So then what happens is fans who are biased against akainu are disappointed that WB didn't do more damage and therefore try to come up with any other reasoning besides admitting "ok this just proves how much of a beast akainu is.". Also, the battle between Whitebeard and Akainu went on longer, with Whitebeard launching more vicious attacks against the Admiral. [109][150] Another example was his clash with Shanks which resulted in the heavens being split in two.[151]. My nostalgia led me back to re-reading the Marineford Arc as well as re-watching battle scenes from the War, but I could not help but notice how pitiful Whitebeard's contributions are in comparison to Akainu. 72. In his prime, he was one of the few able to take on the Pirate King Gol D. Roger, battling him for days to a draw. Whitebeard wielded a gigantic naginata called Murakumogiri, one of the 12 Supreme Grade Blades. Whitebeard mid-high diff 28%. [82] Luffy respected Whitebeard as well, believing that anyone whom Ace admires cannot be a bad person, and was willing to intercept an attack from Crocodile aimed at Whitebeard's life before he even met him in person. Is Akainu a saint? Whitebeard shown together with Ace and Blackbeard, One Piece Romance Dawn: The Dawn of the Adventure, http://myfigurecollection.net/item/137217, http://file.onepiece.ria10.com/1789717f.jpeg, From the Decks of the World: The 500,000,000 Man Arc. Today we speak on akainu and whitebeard I had a lot of fun making this video, and giving all of my thoughts but I'd love to hear from you all. [1], He wore a black bandanna around his head and adorned himself with a white captain's coat, which hung loosely from his broad shoulders and bore his Jolly Roger symbol. Blackbeard survives and then his crew attacks Whitebeard in a cowardly manner by using pistols and blades, dealing finishing blows to his already battered body, while his crew looks on in horror and heartbreak. Not long before his death, Roger met with Whitebeard on an island to have what seemed to be an entirely cordial drinking session, with Roger even offering to give the location of Laugh Tale to Whitebeard, and when Whitebeard asked Roger about the Will of D., Roger willingly told him about it. While 4Kids Entertainment never dubbed any of his appearances in the anime proper, some tie-in materials indicate that it planned to rename him Ward Newgate. I dont think being a logia played a factor at all, You could clearly see the quakes had an effect on him. Contrary to the tyrannical Kaidou and Charlotte Linlin, Whitebeard used his power and influence as one of the Four Emperors for humanitarian purposes. Whitebeard was an immensely skilled user of Busoshoku Haki, which he could imbue his weapon Murakumogiri with. The Marines currently have no one who can fight a Yonko 1v1. -Whitebeard was already very injured and ill before fighting Akainu due to his old age, the Squard betrayal or the hits taken from many marines and other admirals. The only reason Akainu landed the chest hole because Whitbeard was on his knees having a heart attack. He could also use his shockwaves defensively, as their vast raw power could easily stop incoming attacks. [48] Upon learning that Ace was his rival's son, Whitebeard did not see his bloodline as an inconvenience, and even tried to inspire Ace to respect Roger as his father. As he further bonded with Whitebeard's crewmates, who already treated him as family, Ace eventually grew to respect Whitebeard so much that he viewed him as a proper father figure, due to his hatred of his actual father, Gol D. Roger. [63], Whitebeard was well aware of Oden's strength and entrusted him with the command of the second division. Akainu melts him again 2%. Whitebeard first became aware of Portgas D. Ace while the latter was still a rookie, being curious and impressed by the rapid growth and progress of the youngster's career as a pirate captain. Whitebeard was mostly annoyed with Shiki's ramblings at the time, but seemingly knew he had something planned, being familiar with the Golden Lion's penchant for schemes. It's really disappointing but oh well. Look at how easily BB was replicating WBs feats of destruction moments after receiving the DF. The rest are just me guessing strongest hand-to-hand fighters. During the Summit War of Marineford, Whitebeard completely overpowered vast numbers of strong Marine officers and giants with tremendous physical might, such as Vice Admiral Lonz, with only one hand and supplemented by his Devil Fruit powers. When Whitebeard was enraged, he completely destroyed Akainu and immediately made him regret killing Ace. Even Teach was shocked by Whitebeard's tenacity. Akainu attempted to manipulate Squard to betray Whitebeard. How did Aokiji survive Whitebeard's attack? [138] Even when he was on the brink of death, Whitebeard quickly thought of a countermeasure against Teach's Devil Fruit power's nullification abilities by using his naginata to cut Teach down, taking him off guard for him to use his quake powers to injure him. Overall, they were at far less than their full than even he was after those two quake punches.. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Whitebeard shares several characteristics with the legendary warrior monk. WB stomps now 21%. [159] The fight between Whitebeard and Blackbeard is extended in the anime. [15], Whitebeard was an abnormally large man, with a height of 666cm (21'10"). He didn't need time to do jack shit, he was put out of action, screaming, bleeding and coughing up blood. In the English Dubbed version, he is voiced by Andrew . His figure, taking down enemies while losing half of his head, was truly monstrous. Edward Newgate,[12] more commonly known as "Whitebeard", was the captain of the Whitebeard Pirates and was widely known as the "Strongest Man in the World" and, after Gol D. Roger's death, the "Man Closest to One Piece". [16][17][18] Like all of his men, he had his own Jolly Roger tattooed on his back. After Akainu killed Ace, Whitebeard brutally injured the Admiral in retaliation, with the latter being practically helpless in response to Whitebeard's power, temporarily defeating him in a relatively short battle with a mere two hits, causing immense destruction all around. Ia mengisahkan pengembaraan. Vista was never wounded throughout the war, and Marco regenerated from all of his damage. [60] Ace's death was enough to make Whitebeard stop holding back the full destructiveness of his Devil Fruit, with him targeting Ace's killer, Akainu, almost immediately after. We have multiple exemples of Whitebeard unable to use any of the three haki. Picture WB doing the same to Kaido or BM, do you think they should limp afterwards? Whitebeard was one of the most powerful pirates in history. [40] However, he was willing to go against his personal code under certain circumstances, if he felt the risk would not be worth the safety of his crew.[41][42]. Edward Weevil claims to be Edward Newgate's biological son. Later, in Episode 507, when Usopp dropped a newspaper covering the aftermath of the war, Whitebeard's body was shown to match the manga's depiction as opposed to the anime's censorships: his torso had swords sticking out, he was posed to make it looks like a portion of his head was torn off, and the gaping hole on his stomach that Akainu inflicted on him in the anime was missing, leaving only the hole in his upper chest. same thing with whitebeard getting stabbed. Was it just observation Haki similar to Katakuri? Teach ultimately became Whitebeard's greatest enemy for killing Thatch and enabling Ace's capture and execution. Some minor debate exists as to whether Whitebeard is the "proper" translation of the epithet Shirohige (, Shirohige? These are characters that need entire islands to fight. The Marines survive. [83], Whitebeard was an old friend of King Neptune. 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