However, poor on-field performances and factional fighting led to the collapse of the Northern Eagles in 2002, after only three years. But they would. As of 2014, there have been several attempts for the Bears to come back into the NRL by being based at the Central Coast, North Sydney, Perth, Gold Coast and Brisbane. Its the same in Canberra as the Shire as Townsville TNQ. But Jeez that's two million eyeballs. Dont need to have surfed the Long Reef bommie to back the maroon and white. Each payment, once made, is non-refundable, subject to law. The foundation club exited the league in 1999, before their failed merger with Manly ended in 2003. The record attendance for the club was 20,059 for the club's opening game against the Newcastle Knights at Grahame Park on 6 February 2000. Id have thought the former would be a more preferential choice. cost) every 4 weeks unless cancelled as per full Terms and Conditions. How long does it take for my home delivery to start? I had a yarn once with an academic, Hunter Fujak, of University Technology Sydney. [3], North Sydney was formed as a foundation club of the newly arrived rugby league game in 1908 and were initially known as the Shoremen. Can I put my subscription or membership on hold? Brisbane team? I was eight, Norths were first. Full Digital Access + Weekend Paper Delivery $8 billed every 4 weeks for the first 12 weeks, then $36 billed every 4 weeks. Carney's blocked move coincided with the departure of Souths contracted player Robbie Farah who spent the first 12 weeks playing for North Sydney. Hes in demand by NRL clubs. Is it time to dream? In the 2022 NSW Cup season, North Sydney finished third on the table and qualified for the finals. The Northern Pride who Carney was contracted with demanded that Norths pay the fee which the club refused to do and hoped that a deal could be met between Carney's management team and The Queensland Cup side before the 30 June transfer window closed. Hes presented Powerpoint shows to many suits detailing the findings of his years of study into Sydney peoples sports-consuming habits. Missed out. People follow footy teams largely because the team represents them, their patch, their people. And yes if I was going to merge clubs I would support a new brand over a 'merged' brand, as merging the brands just leads to problems and infighting, so yeah instead of the new club being called the North Sydney Sea Eagles and playing in red and black, they'd have a completely new brand and be (e.g.) A team they cant really own. A total of sixty nine players played for the club. Politicians do the same thing with policy; leak a backbenchers brain-fart to the papers, see how it flies among the populace. Manly dissolved the merger after just two . At a private event some years ago, a former senior administrator in the NRL laughed in the face of a Bears official explicating the case for a return on the Central Coast in a ground the club built, underwritten by John Singleton, coached by Wayne Bennett. Nothing locked in, of course, not officially. Once again they were eliminated from the finals after losing both their matches in consecutive weeks,. They were eliminated by Balmain in a playoff for 5th place. Indeed like Souths fans will, for theyll be there, as Bears fans were for them, and their game, the one the media barons had so buggered. Weve been burnt before, but were still here, and still hoping. An independent voice that will not be influenced by power or money, and will not be silenced by any official heirachy. The Roosters 200,000. [58], On 25 September 2019, Australian entrepreneur John Singleton spoke to former NRL player Matthew Johns about a team being placed on the Central Coast. North Sydney reportedly placed a $7 million bid to purchase The Gold Coast Licence and as part of the bid if they were to be successful was to rename the side The Gold Coast Bears and continue to play games at Robina plus taking two games to North Sydney Oval with one game being held against fierce rivals The Manly-Warringah Sea Eagles. But like said abominable Northern Eagles, they would be horrible. And the dominant partner eventually killed and ate their Siamese twin, and took the license for themselves, for they are nothing if not their own people. [47], With weekly membership drives and ongoing community involvement, the Central Coast Bears targeted entry into the NRL in 2015,[48] but this date passed without admission. Bring Back The Bears. L.U. Twice the Bears have adorned the back page of the West Australian, and ahead of Perths hosting of the State of Origin on Sunday, Bears chairman Daniel Dickson will be in the city to meet a West Australian government group to further explore the partnership. Cheaper and easier than focus groups. Maybe not instant. Editor Matt Cleary is an award-winning sports writer, contributor to The Guardian, Inside Sport, Big League and Inside Rugby, among several dozen other journals. In 2016, it was reported that there were moves for the Bears to buy the Gold Coast Titans franchise. As would electric Dog-Eels. Relocating rugby league clubs disenchants new fans and disenfranchises existing ones. No cancellations during the first 12 months. But they could be a much bigger thing. On 11 October 2017, Shane Millard was announced as new head coach by the club. Matt has interviewed just about everyone in Australian sport, and has a massive Rolodex of Australian sports folk. Hard-nosed? We just want to make sure that geographically we feel we are the team of the people, and we can take that to the people where the game needs to go. Whether wise brinkmanship, 4D chess, or just playing hard to get, it is fair to say that Dickson thinks in the abstract about location, and is keeping his options open. Then it was the Western. It would mean joining forces with the North Sydney Bears who have been desperate to get in the NRL since their exit at the end of the 1999 season. Supporters of grass roots Rugby League. From then on, you can then use Sign In with Google to access your subscription and Google will do the billing for the subscription and process your payments. On 21 May 2018, Carney officially signed with North Sydney, in reaction to the signing, General Manager of football at Souths Shane Richardson said "We've spoken to Norths about Todd Carney and it's our position that we will develop our young halves, as opposed to bringing in a player from outside the club in this instance," Richardson said. And he said the NRL told these guys not to use the media to play things out. Speaking . Souths: 390,000. Yes, yes, yes adding a team in Sydney would appear to fly in the face of the theres too many teams in Sydney argument. Newcastle, and Andrew Johns, then 19, beat us at home. So bring em back, baby, and fill Percys Bar. And all those aforementioned Sydney fisheries have a team, while a one million-strong chunk of northern Sydney and its near north does not. After this, the Northern Eagles' licence then reverted to the Manly-Warringah Sea Eagles, leaving the foundation club out of the top flight of rugby league in Australia after more than 90 years. NRL support. Our club is a 1908 foundation club,". Commercial viability. Consider my own northern beaches. Seriously, brad Fittler and matty johns are past the point of no return. Newtown went on to beat Balmain in the 2012 NSW Cup Grand Final. Relocation disenchants and disenfranchise existing fans, while new ones get a sort of half-arsed mob from somewhere else. The Bears remain a thing. See: The Northern Eagles. They lost their first semi final to Newcastle Knights but had a chance to remain in the running of the competition the week after only to give up a 246 lead to the Newtown Jets and lose in extra time 32-30 from a Daniel Mortimer 35-metre penalty goal. Nothing locked in, of course, not officially. JavaScript is disabled. Home delivery is not available in all areas. Probably not irrevocable, either, given the volatile nature of this greatest game of all. It explains that if you do not provide us with information we have requested from you, we may not be able to provide you with the goods and services you require. And if you brought back the North Sydney Bears to represent these 600,000 people in the northern suburbs of Sydney - and the 400,000 people of the Central Coast - it would be an instant and irrevocable success. However, independent research shows the club still has 220,000 avid followers, a huge supporter . Exhibit A: The Northern Eagles. Manly officially returned to the NRL in 2003 (playing out of Brookvale Oval, though they played at least two games per season in Gosford until 2015) and have since played in four NRL Grand Finals (2007, 2008, 2011 and 2013), winning the premiership in 2008 and 2011. And the fans went with them. NRL Round 1 Talking Points - early edition: Whos confident? Politicians do the same thing with policy; leak a backbenchers brain-fart to the papers, see how it flies among the populace. North Melbourne withdraws from the merger race. That's lotta eyeballs. 380 following. with other sports fans, Please enter your credit or debit card details below. At the end of the 2019 Canterbury Cup NSW regular season, Norths finished third on the table and qualified for the finals. Ill never forget the first time the Bears caused me pain. I cant see any government wanting to throw any money towards that shit hole especially with how small their supporter base is. They both have a point, but how its executed is important. Had another chat with a bloke involved in the Bears ill-fated bid for the Gold Coast licence. the fun and become a member of the community, You can share sports stories, experiences, match reports, Speaking to Sporting News Australia, Manly tragic Peter Zorba Peters proudly rubbished Fittlers recommendation with a warning for the Bears. Why subscribe to become a Full Digital Access or Paper Delivery + Full Digital Access Member? "We went with the Dolphins for the 17th because they had a strong business . Theres thousands and thousands of Bears fans out there and bringing them all together would make a big statement, Mullan said. They defeated the Newcastle Knights 32-28 in the first week of the finals, and were then eliminated by minor premiers and eventual NSW Cup premiers the Cronulla-Sutherland Sharks in the preliminary final, who recorded a convincing 38-6 win. Unprecedented goodwill. Full Digital Access 12 Month Plan costs $208 (min.cost) for the first 12 months, charged as $16 every 4 weeks. The Sea Eagles fell on hard times financially and while they did manage to claim one of the prized 14 NRL licenses they did enter into a merger with hated rivals the North Sydney Bears. Who are these people? [4] Many good players such as Andy Morton, Jimmy Devereaux and Sid Deane were lost to English clubs in the years after making the semi-finals in the season of 1908. Steve Menzies played the most games for the club, with 69 caps.[3]. The only comments appearing to temper matters are those from Dickson himself. The club was formed at the North Sydney School of Arts in Mount Street on 7 February 1908. Former North Sydney internationals Greg Florimo and David Fairleigh play a prominent role in the club's push to join the NRL. Payment will be charged to your Google Account. Unfortunately, these would be their last first grade premierships, and their last grand final appearance was in 1943. We used to cry when the Bears won a game! Guttural laughter from my uncles. If the NRL wants to expand it should look inside itself: And bring back the North Sydney Bears. On a fine and sunny afternoon at dear little Brookie, against the Eels, say, thered be what - 15,000 fans? The merged club lasted only until 2002 when it split again, with the Bears not returning to first grade and being represented in the NSWRL competition, the second-tier rugby league competition, where the Bears continue to play today. I trudged in the rain with my Mum, Dad, and four uncles, back to the pub Percys across Miller Street. And watch the people stream across Miller Street and into Bear Park, and fill it full to burst, and chant like Souths fans did. But once your delivery is activated, youll get the next edition, hot off the press. But like said abominable Northern Eagles, they would be horrible. Norths then had to wait 10 years to make the finals again, this time against Balmain where they lost 11-9. And it should be done because there is not a team in northern Sydney. This was the third consecutive season that the North Sydney side had been eliminated in the finals by the team which would eventually win the premiership. In the fifty years the new building has stood, a number of redesigns and refurbishments have taken place. New South Wales representative Queenslander, Bruce Walker, captained the Bears in the final of the 1976 Amco Cup. L.U. The Bears are not in agreement with anyone, Dickson told SENZ Breakfast Radio recently. Rejection didnt get in their way, beginning a new mission to return to the top flight by holding talks with a Western Australian consortium to launch a club almost 4000km across the country. It made sense to relocate one of the Sydney teams to the Central Coast". If you wish to change or create a new subscription, please call 1800 070 535 Monday to Friday 7.30am 6.00pm & 7.00am-11.30am AEST on both Saturdays & Sundays. [29][30] The northern beaches. Due to having a debt of around $4 million, the North Sydney club was not considered under the NRL's inclusion criteria. Bring back the bears, throw manly under a bus. The proposed team would play 11 games in Gosford and one game at North Sydney Oval (obviously against Manly as part of a heritage or rivalry round). But only like the two Koreas. As Lane Cove was in North Sydney's district, the club protested to the NSWRFL and claimed Hyde from Balmain. They love the club. Its a bad merge. It was more a fishing exercises by suits in high places, the "paper" leaked to select media to disseminate in the court of public opinion. Fish where the fish are, is something my old man would say and he didnt even like fishing. The club was established in 1908, making it one of the original founding members of the New South Wales Rugby Football League, and one of Australia's first rugby league football clubs. Norths went on to make the finals again in 1953 and 1954, losing to Souths and St. George respectively. cost) for the first 12 months, charged as $24 every 4 weeks. Sheesh Teddy you want to move the Roosters to the "Eastern Seabed".The gimps have to breath now and again mate.Bloody hard to knock on or flick pass 100 fathoms below the surface. The northern beaches. We are super excited to have a player of Todd Carneys calibre join the mighty North Sydney Bears". You are using an out of date browser. Not sure if you missed it Freddy but the Bears already did merge with Manly. This option is only available where expressly indicated with the offer. North Sydney was in a partnership with South Sydney serving as Souths' reserve grade side from 2007 until the agreement ended in 2018. Dont worry mate, he consoled me, gently putting a fatherly arm around me as I tried to hide my flood of tears from my uncles. Cronulla has 220,000. Interim Eels boss Max Donnelly could well be presiding over the Parramatta Bears had he not blocked a push to merge the Eels with foundation club North Sydney. Perry went on to say "You need 12 and 12, so 24 key markets, and stricter criteria about those clubs around their funding model which means all of the 24 may not fit the top tier criteria, it may only be 16-18 franchises that make the cut, their catchment areas, their population, and their commercial growth, because currently I believe a lot of clubs havent been accountable as much as they should have. And they didnt. Renewals occur unless cancelled as per full Terms and Conditions. Yet the region the catchment, where the fish are continued to grow. The loss was evidently too much for me, and I began to cry. North Sydney chose to join the temporary Presidents Cup competition which involved teams from country New South Wales and the Ron Massey Cup. Oops! Red & Black Foundation. Each payment, once made, is non-refundable, subject to law. However! Deon Apps and Curtis Johnston represented the Bears in the 2011 NSW Residents side with Johnston finishing up leading try scorer for the competition by the end of the regular season with 28 tries, Johnston would play 110 games with the North Sydney NSW Cup scoring 97 tries in 6 seasons. North Sydney chairman Perry Lopez said of the deal "We are the North Sydney Bears, were not South Sydney," The decision is based on whats best for our club. Mergers mean dogs and cats living together in unholy matrimony. They love that place. Its a bad merge. Twice the Bears have adorned the back page of the West Australian, and ahead of Perth's hosting of the State of Origin on Sunday, Bears chairman Daniel Dickson will be in the city to meet a. However, no such sentiment appears to exist in Perth. Prices after the introductory pricing period may be varied in accordance with the full Terms and Conditions. They knew: tribalism is good. The Bears bid committee is lobbying the NRL for inclusion as the next expansion team. Gold Coast? Please call 1800 070 535. Madness, of course. Newcastle, and Andrew Johns, then 19, beat us at home. South Sydney who have a partnership with Norths were not happy with this decision and declared that there would be no NRL pathway for Carney and declared that they might withdraw their relationship with Norths as a result. Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox! This Bowling Club was transformed and re-branded as The Greens North Sydney in November 2014. Norths came into the game with an outside chance of making the finals but the loss ensured Norths finished outside the top 8 and with a bad point points differential meant they finished in second last place on the table. The path appears to be clearing to bring back the grand old club. Subscription automatically renews at least 24 hours before the end of the current billing period. Fish where the fish are, is something my old man would say and he didnt even like fishing. Renewals occur unless cancelled in accordance with the full Terms and Conditions. In the 2016 NSW Cup North Sydney finished the season in 10th place and therefore missed the finals. Brad Fittler calls for Manly to merge with North Sydney Bears to make 'behemoth' club. The news never got better for Bears fans. A page that will not be. Est 1908. I was eight, Norths were first. Greg Florimo has been the face of the Bears' efforts to get back into the NRL, and remains involved with the club. But it should still be done. The people of Gosford preferred to wait until a home-grown team was based there. [14], North Sydney remained loyal to the Australian Rugby League during the Super League war of the mid-1990s. In the 2007 NSWRL Premier League the North Sydney club made the Grand Final facing off against Parramatta. And they could again. The voice of TRUE North Sydney Bears Supporters. [28] On 20 May 2018, it was revealed that North Sydney were in advanced negotiations to sign former NRL player Todd Carney. It could take up to 5 business days before your first paper delivery arrives. Matt is the Tribunes head curator of content. This is one of those things that wont happen but I do wonder what the future holds for Manly. 2010 was a poor season for Norths, who received the wooden spoon. They love that place. Because eyeballs watching product are all. Same-same. Since the North Sydney Bears were banished from the NRL after the ill-fated merger with Manly (forming the Northern Eagles) in 2002, the Upper and Lower North Shore and Northern Suburbs have gone . North Sydney legend David Fairleigh was proposed to become the inaugural coach. North Sydney would eventually reach the preliminary final in the competition but were defeated by Glebe 26-6. You must log in or register to reply here. Now Brad Fittler wants the Manly Bears. [17][18], In 1998, Norths finished 5th on the table and qualified for the finals. This automatically renews to be charged as $16 (min. I didnt hear much more of his explanation because I was gob-dangling speechless that old mate was actually talking about Papua New bloody Guinea as a dinkum locale for a red-and-black comeback. You must log in or register to reply here. Norths were knocked out of the finals series that year in consecutive games, first losing to Manly and then to Eastern Suburbs. The club competes in the New South Wales Cup, having exited the National Rugby League following the 1999 NRL season after 90 years in the premier rugby league competition in Australia. People can also support a team though theyve never set foot in their zone. Its why people follow footy teams. These are the ties that bind. But as recently as April 2021 the Bears have expressed their intent on eventually returning the brand to the NRL competition. Manly's licence is redistributed to a WA or Bris2 franchise. The 2002 season was played under the Northern Eagles name, although effectively the club was the Manly Warringah Sea Eagles by another name. The Northern Eagles represented Manly. [11], The nineties saw finals appearances and near misses in 1991 and 19941998. The North Sydney Bears is an Australian rugby league football club based in North Sydney, New South Wales. [40], There is a movement for a return to first-grade Rugby League for the club, with the North Sydney Bears moving to Gosford (on the Central Coast, New South Wales) and becoming the Central Coast Bears. Each payment, once made, is non-refundable, subject to law. For mine, sports fans, that is freakin La La Land. Johns went on to say "I think its a must, We keep talking about Perth, but its so far away I imagine the costs would be astronomical getting everyone over there and back. Article proves that ice is a scourge on Australian lives. Bring Back The Bears! We lost thousands and thousands of rugby league fans.. [39], The Bears have won eight premierships in reserve grade, making them the second most successful club currently participating in the competition. Monday to Friday 7:30am 6:00pm, Saturday & Sunday 7:00am 11:30am (AEST), App or digital edition only customer? Earlier in the week, The Australian's. Then it was the Western Bears. And they would dinkum hang from the trees. Any Questions? And Dr Fujaks research tells us this: Canterbury has 440,000 people in their catchment. A WA-Bears joint venture will be judged very much on their business model rather than the emotion around the Bears. Sign up successfully. Register a free account today to become a member of the world's largest Rugby League discussion forum! Like Illawarra got the socks in their merge and the Magpies got Campbelltown occasionally, the Bears got shafted in the merge. Norths player Drew Hutchison also had a bad match kicking two goals from six attempts including one from right in front to send the game into extra-time. Become a member to join in Australia's biggest sporting debate, submit articles, receive updates straight to your inbox and keep up with your favourite teams and authors. Matt Cleary will receive 80% of all funds contributed. However this was turned around in the 2011 season with the North Sydney side reaching the preliminary final and losing to eventual premiers the Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs. In September 2018, North Sydney announced that it had signed a 5-year deal to become the Sydney Roosters feeder club and reserve grade side with Taylor returning to the club as head coach. Penrith (590,000) is about the same. There are so many players play up there, so you can get the best kids aspiring to play for the Central Coast". Home Delivery is not available in all areas. Home ground - North Sydney Oval. During that time, North Sydney produced arguably the greatest winger the game has ever seen in Ken Irvine. Johns originally floated the plan in early August, https://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/bb/news-story/6fc9fb8d6f197168e25759294c1e8e1d, https://www.sportsradio.com.au/north-sydney-bears-ceo-open-to-new-merger-with-manly/, 2023 R1 Thu - Parramatta v Melbourne @ CommBank, I Dont' Like Cricket, Oh No, I Love it, Yeah. The Great Dane Sep 3, 2018 Prev 1 2 3 4 Next flippikat Bench Messages 3,489 Sep 18, 2018 #21 Hello said: I dont know why they would need to play any games in Brooky or NSO. "'The 'Rabbitoh Way' is to build a culture that rewards young players for hard work, a culture that has respect for the club and its people, respects the members and sponsors that invest financially and emotionally into what we are doing here at South Sydney, and a culture of developing young players that want to play for South Sydney and that we see having a future NRL career". Prices after the first 12 months may be varied as per full Terms and Conditions. There are hundreds of thousands of Bears people, just like me, who will invoke the same, mechanised caution at the prospect of a miracle: a return to first grade, footy at Bear Park, even just once a year, in the red and black. The North Sydney Bears would be back and there would be, give us your best Rabbits Warren, deadset jubilation. Then, after the initial 28 days it is $28 billed approximately 4 weekly. [43], The Central Coast Bears have 7,200 financial members with new members joining weekly. 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